Krieg is the quarterback Fitzpatrick wishes he could be. His average-sized hands never betrayed him. He was the Seahawks quarterback coach for many years, had an ill-fated stint as head coach in Washington, and was last seen coaching the Seattle Dragons of the XFL. "[36], Later that month, the Jacksonville Jaguars knocked McNair out of a game, but Krieg's comeback effort failed. Wide receiver Steve Largent had just emerged as the team's first true star. Kelly Stouffer is a college football television analyst. The Seahawks selected Penn State running back Curt Warner with the third overall pick in the quarterback-laden 1983 draft, so it wasn't hard to guess what Knox was planning. Terms apply, see operator site for Terms and Conditions. He also had 417 rushing attempts for 1,261 yards and 13 touchdowns and 3 pass receptions for 10 yards. My favorite memory was when CBS named him as the player of the game but spelled his name wrong on the graphic. He was impressing coaches and teammates with his ability to fire tight spirals into the wind. Reply . Dave Krieg of the Seattle Seahawks, seen here in between fumbles. He didn't get many opportunities to impress recruiters, so he ended up at Milton College, a tiny NAIA program located southeast of Madison. However, Krieg and Seahawks offense were overwhelmed by the aggressive defense of the L.A. [14], Despite a prodigious effort by Mike McCormack to recruit Warren Moon to join the QB ranks in Seattle, Krieg resumed his starting role 1984 after Moon declined Seattle's offer and chose to play for the Houston Oilers instead. Krieg signed with the Lions in April of 1994. "Ground Chuck" took flight under Dave Krieg. Gilbert should have kept looking. Krieg was completely immobile at this point. David Michael Krieg (/kre/ KRAYG; born October 20, 1958) is an American former professional football player who was a quarterback in the National Football League (NFL). Despite going undrafted in the 1980 NFL Draft, he has consistently demonstrated remarkable talent as a quarterback throughout his career. I loved the guy as a kid and QBs turned it over more in those days butoof. Krieg took over in the second half. At Milton, a now-defunct small private college in Milton, Wisconsin, Krieg began as the 7th-string quarterback for his school's NAIA team, the Wildcats. [28] Although Krieg had set Detroit Lions regular-season records for fewest passes intercepted (3) and highest passer rating (101.7), the team decided to stick with Mitchell and let Krieg become a free agent. [30], In 1996, the Chicago Bears signed Krieg to back up Erik Kramer. Tony Romo was uniformly terrific. WebDave Krieg As a professional athlete, he has represented various famous NFL teams like- Seattle Seahawks, Kansas City Chiefs, Detriot Lions, Arizona Cardinals, Chicago Bears , Seattle General Manager Tom Flores decided to retain Stouffer and McGwire, and to let Krieg become a free agent. Dave Krieg. He played most of his career with coaches who practically hated their quarterbacks, or at least the modern passing offenses those quarterbacks represented. In the most memorable game of the season, on November 11, the Seahawks made their annual visit to Arrowhead Stadium, where they had not won since 1980. He kept his turnovers, sacks, and fumbles down, finishing 11th in DVOA and 12th in DYAR, stunning figures for a 38-year-old whose weapons were Curtis Conway (not bad), early-career Bobby Engram (OK), Michael Timpson, fullbacks Tony Carter and Raymont Harris, and tight end Ryan Wetnight (yikes). It was the forerunner toManning-Leaf. He's way better than DeBerg!" Little (or widely) known fact: He has the fourth-smallest hands among current starters. In the regular season finale, Krieg dissected the Raiders' secondary, throwing for 410 yards and four touchdowns, thereby securing the division title at 97 and relegating the Raiders to a wild card berth. But who would hand off to Warner? He was quite possibly the greatest "trick-or-treat" QB in NFL history. See Photos. Dave Krieg went to Milton College in Wisconsin. Dave Krieg. They were merely average for someone of his 6-foot-5 stature. Although he missed seven games with a separated shoulder, his excellent play helped propel the Seahawks to their first AFC West Division Championship. Stroud, Mike Tanier's Final Three-Round Mock Draft, Things to Do While Waiting for Aaron Rodgers. Dave Krieg played in 12 postseason games (9 as a starter), and completed 51.1 percent of his passes (144 for 282) for 1,895 passing yards, 11 touchdowns, 10 interceptions and a 70.86 rating. However, he faltered in midseason, so Coach Knox benched him in favor of Gale Gilbert. I was in the Army in Germany during the late 80's - early 90s seasons. In the wild-card round of the playoffs, when the Chiefs hosted the Pittsburgh Steelers, an injured Montana briefly left the game. Oh that guy undrafted from a College that no longer has a football program, had small hands and took over for Zorn and who drove Knox nuts but found a way to win most the time. Broadcasters and columnists alike loved to tell the story of the seventh-stringer from tiny Milton College. See Photos. 3) The Seahawks had the Jets' number in their early expansion years, winning their first 7 games against New York and not losing to the Jets from their founding in 1976 until the 1985 season. And if he's down, he bounces right back. However, operating behind a porous offensive line, Krieg had another inconsistent year. Knox added that Gilbert would remain the starter for the rest of the season. But the career leader in quarterback fumbles is none other than Hall of Famer Brett Favre, with 166. As it turns out, hands under nine inches arent His college teams had a 14-30 record in games he started (not exactly in a power conference either), and he was brutal his senior year, completing fewer than 55% of his passes with twice as many INTs as TDs (7-14). Krieg also played well in Miami the following week, but the Dolphins defeated the Seahawks and went on to lose Super Bowl XIX. Krieg would feel his absence, throwing more interceptions (20) than touchdowns (15) in 1990. His regular season career winloss record is 98-77. I'm fuzzy on the details, but I have fond memories of his days in Miami, even though I mostly remember him in Kansas doing his thing for the Chiefs. The Chiefs lost 30-13. [31] Statistically, Krieg's performance was inconsistent: his passer rating ranged from subpar (4 games below 60) to mediocre (2 games in the 60s) to good (3 games in the 80s and 90s) to outstanding (3 games over 100). Dave Krieg. Completed only 1 of 12 passes Truly one of the most miserably bad games of all time. If theres one area the greater football world could improve upon, it would be in over-analysis of the smallest details. He threw three touchdowns, two of them to Largent, in a blowout victory over the Browns in the season finale. Krieg said Patera wouldn't allow players to drink water during 90-degree training camp two-a-days, which wasn't that unusual back then. Krieg would have disappeared if Gaddini didn't have a connection in the Seahawks personnel department. Gannett may earn revenue from sports betting operators for audience referrals to betting services. I had forgotten the Rams play, that's got to be one of the greatest plays in history. At that time, what was right was letting Dave stay in. I moved to the Seattle area in 1983-84 and vividly remember the Zorn vs. Krieg debates. One footnote: Gale Gilbert has one other distinction other than being awful - being on the roster for five straight Super Bowl losses. https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/nfl-scouting-combine-patrick-mahomes-tom-brady-kenny-pickett, Tom Brady, Patriots/Buccaneers (9.375 inches). Largent, who retired as the NFL's all-time leading receiver, represented his native Oklahoma in Congress for eight years. Dave is proud to be a board If you did a book of things like these from throughout the NFL's history (the hall of semi-interesting / semi-forgotten), I would absolutely buy it. Krieg Sports betting operators have no influence over nor are any such revenues in any way dependent on or linked to the newsrooms or news coverage. Really liked him a lot except for those small hands. He signed with the Bears to back up Erik Kramer. I remember when 44 year old Deberg started a game for the 1998 Falcons (one of their 2 losses that season). This year that backwards discussion is centered around former Pittsburgh signal-caller, Kenny Pickett. Krieg also became part owner of the af2's Green Bay Blizzard in 2007 along with former Green Bay Packer linebacker Brian Noble. 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Given the opportunity to play in the fourth game of his freshman season (1976), he completed four passesthree of them for touchdownsand continued to play well enough to start for the rest of his college career. [24] Despite having an outstanding defense in 1992, their overall record of 214 (.125) remains the worst in franchise history. Youre legally obligated to mention Krieg suffered a thumb injury in the 1991 season opener, leading to even more Kemp and Stouffer. But Dan McGwire (brother of Mark)was somehow worse. They crushed the eventual AFC champion Broncos 41-16 in the final game of the regular season (when Denver still had something to play for). I looked it up, in 1993 after 7-2 Miami lost Marino for the season and Scott Mitchell went down, they signed DeBerg, then 39, off-the-street and put him as their starter. Patera's attitude toward unions was predictable. Krieg ran a power-I offense as a prep quarterback at D.C. Everest High School in Schofield, Wisconsin. Call the National Council on Problem Gambling 24/7 at 1-800-GAMBLER (NJ, OH), 1-800-522-4700 (CO), 1-800-BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN). He was the hottest thing on the planet in October of 93 as many believed Miami couldnt win a game without Marino. ", Krieg himself made a remark which would prove ironic in the seasons to come. Krieg's burden grew heavier in 1990, with the retirement of Largent and the continued decline of the offensive line and the running game. Zorn's playing career fizzled out soon after Krieg took his job. But, it didnt. "John Elway is a fellow who can really drill the ball Dave's arm probably isn't as strong but he gets the ball there and he's right on target, and that's the most important thing, isn't it?". Keenum, on the other hand, has a grand total ofoneseason (2017) where his passing DVOA wasn't below average or worse. Then a strike erased two months. His final completion was to Mike Archie, done in the final quarter. "He was doing a great job moving the team up and down the field. Mirer and Bledsoe shared Rookie of the Year honors. "We went out for pre-game warm-ups and I didn't know if it would be Sam Adkins or myself. In Week 16, Krieg was benched and Stouffer got his first start of that season. Players shook hands with opponents as a sign of union solidarity before preseason games in 1982, and the usual suspects reacted as if they were burning puppies cradling bibles wrapped in flags. Krieg was not in training camp that season, but intended on playing a 20th NFL season. Damn. In the year's first game, a knee injury sidelined the Seahawks' star running back Curt Warner for the rest of the season, forcing Coach Knox to discard his run-oriented "Ground Chuck" offense and adopt a new, more pass-intensive philosophy "Air Knox." Stouffer stepped in and led the Seahawks to a pair of wins, mostly by handing off to Warner and John L. Williams. Makes sense that it's hard to play QB when you can't throw to one side of the field. In light of that, as well as everything else, we made the change.". And Krieg, the team's starter for a decade, was exposed to Plan B free agency, the rough 1980s equivalent of being a June 1 cap casualty. Fortunately the rest of my team was stacked. The Chiefs of that era were coached by the great Marty Schottenheimer, managed by the great Carl Petersen, and addicted to creaky quarterbacks. "The Unholy Trinity" as I've labeled them. WebSEATTLE . And he wasn't a 26-year-old with a big contract. In reply to "I'm left struggling with by Joe Pancake. Find your friends on Facebook. Does being in the top half of the league in DVOA make Kreig a top-5 all time Bears QB? DeBerg was actually a pretty decent NFL QB for much of his career, but was always getting replaced by someone who was better or expected to be (and ultimately was) better - Joe Montana, John Elway, Steve Young. In the offseason, the Chiefs signed Joe Montana and made him their starting quarterback. Meanwhile, in St. Louis, former Colorado State quarterback Kelly Stouffer held out for a full year after the Cardinals selected him sixth overall in the 1987 draft. Labor disputes! Then Krieg got benched in favor of Gilbert in the fourth quarter of the same game. Might wnat 5o do fiction instead. My favorite Kelly Stouffer statline is from 1991. NFL's management counsel consulted with the National Labor Relations Board and ordered the fines rescinded. But I guess his tinier hands matter more, somewhere, apparently. All-Pro Steve Largent missed several games because of a fractured elbow. However, Krieg's pedestrian performance on the road in the playoffs contributed to the Seahawks' swift elimination at the hands of the top-seeded Cincinnati Bengals. [43], He was inducted into the Seattle Seahawks Ring of Honor in 2004.[17]. Packers defender Sean Jones said after the game that he was wary of Krieg coming off the bench. Yes, that one season was pretty extraordinary, but he's going to have to wait for Mike to write a series of "One Hit Wonders" articles. In reply to Pretty sure he was making fun of by paytonrules. Did our Marvin49 just get featured in a niner nation article? Veteran Jeff Kemp, who looked great when throwing to Largent against insurance salesmen in 1987, flopped in a one-game trial as the backup. The Seahawks went 9-7 but missed the playoffs. The Packers narrowly held off the Lions for a 38-30 win. Stouffer replaced Krieg after a three-interception meltdown, just as the Seahawks were about to face the Bill Parcells-Bill Belichick-Lawrence Taylor Giants. I remember reading in the Super Bowl 16 program (the first Super Bowl program my father bought for me as a kid; the 1981 season was also the first NFL season I followed closely), which always includes a season in review section on a week by week basis, that after the Seahawks won their second meeting with the Jets in the 1981 season that of their 34 wins in franchise history up to that point, 6 of them were against the Jets. When injuries sidelined Jim Zorn late in the season, Krieg started the last three games and played well, helping the team record two of its six wins that year. When David went up to the bar to order a drink, he noticed a guy wearing a flannel jacket, sitting by himself at the bar, nursing a drink. Hmm, it doesnt appear his hand size matters! Sports Reference Terms of Use | Privacy Policy | Cookie Policy | Responsible Gaming, Support Football Outsiders' independent media and Mike Tanier. The nine-year Ken Behring era in Seattle after Krieg and Knox's departure was mostly terrible. Krieg would throw 11 touchdowns and just one interception during that winning streak. Were supposed to forgetor even simply sidelinethoughts of how accurate of a passer a person is or how well they do under pressure. Krieg could not, however, lead the Lions past the Packers in the playoffs. That makes a difference," said Meyer, who had suggested years earlier that a big-league arm doesn't make much difference. But this was long before the era when NFL scouts effectively beat the deep bushes, or when film of NAIA quarterbacks was readily available on YouTube or Hudl for any deep-diving draftnik. [35] Although McNair recovered from his injury and could have re-entered the game, the team let Krieg finish. -- Krieg is expected to be out for eight weeks with a broken thumb on his throwing hand. In a 1991 game between the New Orleans Saints and Seattle Seahawks, QB Dave Krieg got injured and suffered a broken thumb. I got my picture taken with him at a signing event at a bar during some pregame festivities a few years ago, he looked just about the same as his playing days. You can get it at Amazon or read it for free as an FO+ subscriber! Pickett, an otherwise accomplished college player, measured out with some of the smallest hands in Combine history at 8.5 inches. Have 5hoguht about book like that or. 1 quarterback," Knox insisted in early September, adding that "Zorn has a better grasp of what we're trying to do offensively.". Romo, on the other hand, was flashier and more gifted than Krieg. Please check your email for a confirmation. WebDavid Michael Krieg (/kre/ KRAYG; born October 20, 1958) is a former American football quarterback in the National Football League (NFL). This year that backwards discussion is centered around former Pittsburgh signal-caller, Kenny Pickett. Hand size is more of a fun trivia fact than anything that says a quarterback will fail in the big leagues. It's the link to the first Jets game of the season (Krieg played in the second). He's now a high school coach and autism activist. Honestly, I'd just love to read some more detailed stories about about how DeBerg and Montana were good friends off the field who competed relentlessly at everything during their two plus seasonstogether on the 49ersbefore DeBerg was traded to Denver shortly before the 1981 NFL season started. The Lions went 5-2 down the stretch. We know you are here for the FREE analytics, not the ads. We come to the Golden Example. You dont say! -Kelly Stouffer is one of the greatest draft mysteries to me ever. However, even Krieg's good games rarely resulted in Cardinals victories. (Everyone, or at least most males born in the first half of the 1970s after 1970-1971, also rememberBobby "The Brain" Heenan was Ken Patera's manager.). I was about to jump in to defend Dave Krieg, and say, "You're not giving him enough credit! In reply to "The Unholy Trinity" as I've by Joe Pancake. Together, Montana and Krieg led the Chiefs to an 115 record and an AFC West Championship. Like Steve Young, his powers increased after escaping the Hugh Culverhouse Bucs, much like Superman getting away from Krypton's red dwarf star. [21] Nevertheless, Krieg's strong regular season showing earned him another Pro Bowl appearance. "With a three-day growth of beard and hair that hung almost to his collar, [Krieg] hardly looked like the hero type," wrote columnist Bob Smizik, bringing some heavy get-off-my-lawn energy to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. It's a matter of doing what's right (for the team). "People talk about the arm strength of quarterbacks," said Seahawks quarterback coach Ken Meyer in a Krieg profile during the 1984 playoffs. When I was a kid a I thought he was a damn wizard. Little (or widely) known fact: He has the fourth The Seahawks went 2-1 in replacement games, in part because Largent and a few others crossed the picket lines. ', and I said, 'I guess I do now.'". However, Krieg still saw substantial action in 1993, relieving Montana in six games, and starting five games for the oft-injured Hall of Famer. Dave was lots of fun (along with some gnashing of teeth). You would think that that wouldve precluded Brady from throwing 624 touchdowns and winning seven Super Bowls somewhere along the way. In reply to I remember Mirer having a by Joey-Harringto. he joked to Beckys-Place.com, a Seahawks fan site, in 2005. One can only wonder what would have happened had the Cowboys kept Zorn and/or DeBerg instead of Glenn Carano (2nd round pick in 1977) once Roger Staubach retired and Danny White (drafted by the Cowboys in the 3rd round in 1974, went to the WFL at the start of his career, joined the Cowboys in 1976) beat out Carano for the starter's job in 1980.
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