The most beautiful comment in my e-mail came from Altenir Silva, a baseball-savvy writer in Rio de Janeiro. There is no doubt he is 1 of my favorite Yankees. Readmore, When asked what he has done thus far in the off-season, Mets General Manager Sandy Alderson responded with a joke. The guy was the best at his position for more than half his career. But he DID it. Sign in or register to get started. Or what if the book wins 10% more often than he should, mysteriously. I respectfully disagree. Take out the fact that he was a Yankee, he would not have anyone thinking he belongs in the Hall. Hank Aaron was such a tremendous talent that his movement into his mid-twenties, the first expansion, the move to Atlanta and the 1969 expansion blended together to create a huge prime. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Maris named to Hall of Fame ballot We didnt mention the NL expansion in the article. And in the early 1960s, if you drove in a lot of runs and played for the pennant-winning team, you basically won the MVP. There is pretty clearly no ball being thrown or hit in this video. Yes, clearly they got every fan in the stadium to react at the same time and be in on the scam. Maris would be a very unusual selection for the Hall of Fame. Many other fans wrote that just breaking Babe Ruths single-season record of 60 (in a season eight games longer than the Babes) under intense pressure was enough to qualify Granted, it has been a few years since I have been to the HOF, but I would argue that, sans a plaque, Maris is as much in the HOF as some of those with plaques. MLB Never Forgave Roger Maris for Beating Babe Ruth - WSJ Roger Maris and Allie Reynolds, a pair of history-making contributors to separate Yankees championship squads, landed on the outside looking in as the Eras Committee welcomed six new members to the National Baseball Hall of Fame on Sunday. As others have said, he clearly falls short on the career stats, and there is simply no way of looking at it that places Maris above Dwight Evans, Bobby Bonds, Bobby Murcer, or several other better right fielders ignored by the HOF. He and his wife, Rebecca, live in Manhattan. Only 5-foot-8 and 155 pounds, hes still alive at 93. in which I wrote that his 61 home runs looked better than ever after a half century. Superb comment, Mark. He's one of the most famous baseball players ever. The right fielder, if he's in the frame at all, when the ball is hit he is standing about 1 foot from the wall. Mickey was quoted saying "Roger was one of my best friends. "We've only got a handful of people sitting out in left field," Rizzuto continued, " but in right field, man, it's hogged out there. He previously worked for the National Baseball Hall of Fame, and Major League Baseball Advanced Media. Reporters from all over the country had converged upon Yankee Stadium. "But it was another Yankee that did it. The 1961 and 1962 seasons were unique due to the expansion, which represented the greatest immediate dilution relative to the existing talent pool in the majors and the growing total pool of talent (both expansion outside the US and core population growth). There were over 500 other baseball players during this expansion era and they did not hit 61 home runs. Reynolds also became the first pitcher in AL history to toss two no-hitters in the same season in 1951. Position players spend 1/18 of a game hitting and half of it holding down the field of play. @nam812 said: During the 1961 season, Maris hit 61 home runs for the New York Yankees, breaking Babe Ruth's single-season record of 60 home runs (set in 1927), a record that stood for 37 years. a double by Willie Mays on the squishy turn in right field, holding Matty Alou at third base with the tying run, just before Willie McCovey lined out to Bobby Richardson to end the Series. [deleted] 9 yr. ago For me, Roger is still a HOFer because of the 61 in 61 & the impact of that 1961 year battle between Roger & Mickey. Please put in The Cobra and Munson! I have read books and watched movies such as 61* and others like The Mick. Maris was the MVP that year and also won the award the previous season for the Yankees. He recalled Mariss play in the ninth inning of Game 7 of the 1962 World Series, when he cut off Does Roberto Alomar Deserve To Be Inducted Into The Hall of Fame? However, people questioned the legitimacy of his home run record due to the season expanding to 162 games, as opposed to the 154 games that Babe Ruth hit 60 in. Dwight Evans and Frank Howard, to name just two. Roger Maris: Many still believe his 61 home runs in 1961 is still the single-season home run record. Ken Burns baseball docuseries says that Maris started getting death threats and hate mail and stuff when he got close to the record. That record stood for 37 years. I'd have to say that anybody who beats Babe Ruth at ANYTHING deserves to be in, particularly when you see the Hall voting right now excluding McGwire, Sosa and Bonds repeatedly. Its really hard to say he belongs as a Hall of Fame enshrinement, rather that event will keep his name in the Hall of Fame for his accomplishment Richard Lee-Ching WebNot because he did or didn't use steroids (the HoF is full of cheaters, and many of the legends of the game played at a time when some of the best players in the country were barred from the sport for being black), but because he simply did not have a HoF-worthy career. It's clear that Maris is below the HOF cut, given the length and quality of his overall career. He was a two time (consecutive) American League MVP, a seven time All Star (1959-1962 2 All Star games a year), and a Gold Glove outfielder. Roger Maris played Major League Ball (MLB) for 12 seasons, from 1957-1968. Aaron Judge is almost certainly on something, theyre just better about avoiding tests these days. Wikipedia Roger His Wins Above Replacement in 1960 was 7.5, the highest in the American League. Until the quality of recording improved and the introduction of the center field camera, practically all TV recordings of baseball give the appearance of a phantom ball - you can't see crap in these videos, it's all reactive like the trick play in "Little Big League". But I hate it when people make accusations against someones legacy. Two players who were incredibly famous for a few short years. However, he had many skills that were hidden. Since 1998, he has served as the newspaper's national baseball writer. Playing competitive games most of my life tells me that when people can cheat on stuff like this, they tend to cheat. 8 Articles, By Sorry. @CardGeek said: The camera probably wasn't supposed to capture the upper deck. As Ive written elsewhere in this book, in the 1950s the Kansas City As were nothing more than a feeder team for the Yankees. WebHe had 4 very good seasons. I've always been a big Maris fan, but don't see how it would be possible to make it into the Hall after an 11-year career. It takes decades often for the narratives to soften for the MLB HOF voting members to offer their "peace pipe" & get excellence recognized. A He doesn't have the number to be a hall of also the beat writer for the New Jersey Nets' 1990-1991 season and covered college basketball, college football and wrote for the Metro section. Scan this QR code to download the app now. His teammates finally let him into the dugout. If I remember right, Killebrew, Cash and Gentile and perhaps others in the AL. By the way I have always thought of 1961 as the year of the home run. Roger caught so much flak for his accomplishments that I wonder how it ended up affecting his play as well as his legacy. IMO Munson had a better case than Maris. I'm sure he meant god. If "incredibly famous for a few short years" is a criterion, then Canseco, Mattingly, Strawberry, Gooden, and Hershiser should all be in. Roger's uniform number 9 was retired by the New York Yankees. Maybe I see your point about Joe Jackson. "If I never hit another home run - this is the one they can never take away from me.". At times, all three were superstars, and important in baseball history, but while Cuyler was selected to the Hall, hes not among the all-time great outfielders. 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He would have been.better off if he had played for the Red Sox; he hit well at Fenway.Too bad. En route to his second MVP award, Maris hit a then-record of 61 home runs while driving 141 RBIs. Back then, writers LOVED players who led the league in RBI. He was a good right fielder, very strong, and he could run some too. I hate that Golden Gloves are just throw away facts when considering the HOF. https://EzineArticles.com/expert/Mickey_Morgan/1169320, 2023 EzineArticlesAll Rights Reserved Worldwide. His 38.2 WAR ranks him 595th overall, tied with Ray Langford and Bill Madlock. . My dad ran into him and Whitey Herzog in a bar and they had drinks and talked baseball for 3 hours. Solid major leaguer with a real impact on mid 20th century MLB, but not a HOFer. He went through Hell because no one wanted him to break Ruths record. | The whole subject is really sadRoger Maris career got derailed.He got forced by the Yankees to pursue going for pulled home runs too much in 61.Then, after my fellownYankee Fans started booing him in 1962 he , I believe, doubled down on the pulling8 rather than being more of a BillyWilliams (Cubs) type of hitter which was more natural for him.Then, the injuries, finally the disabling one to the wrist at the age of 30. I have seen plenty of highlights and video footage. Maris also retired at a very early age (just 33) because of his nagging injuries and the opportunity to earn more money as a businessman. Excellent player, both offensively and defensively, but not HofF. Red Barber knew a thing or two about calling a ball game, although all he said was "there it is". If Kirby Puckett is a first ballot Hall of Famer, Maris deserves the nod from the Veteran's Committee. Yankees fans appreciate their team honoring Roger Maris and the 50th anniversary of his 61 in '61. He lives in Michigan where he writes, runs, and enjoys a good orange soda now and again. On September 20, a night game, the 154th game of the season the Yankees clinch the American League pennant with a win over the Orioles in Baltimore 4-2. He WAS deserving. So, according to you only people who are alive at the time can comment on history? His career beyond '61 and '60 is relatively unremarkable, but to set a long standing record like that in a sport that has been recorded for so long is remarkable and enough to be enshrined. ( COOPERSTOWN, NY) The 1961 baseball season, which found Americans riveted to the great Maris-Mantle home run race, will be celebrated upon its 60th anniversary with the donation of a Roger Maris Yankees jersey from that season. He was critical for 5 pennants and 2 world series for Yankees. Why isn't Roger Maris in the hall of fame As far as Cardgeek is concerned, I suppose the earth is flat and the moon landings were staged in Hollywood. It was a great time to be a baseball fan. Your login session has expired. other than that, his whole career was pretty good not great. If Joe Namath is in the Football HOF, then I believe Roger Maris should also be in the baseball HOF. We are delighted that you'd like to resume your subscription. I've been researching sports and sports cards again for the past couple years and watching all the Dodgers games I can. Roger Maris had light-brown hair, a square jaw, fair-skin, and green eyes. But an infection forced the Mick out of the race in September, and he finished with 54 homers. Roger Maris Controversy also stemmed from a newly expanded 162-game regular season, eight games longer than the schedule played in 1927 when Ruth hit 60. You will be notified in advance of any changes in rate or terms. A very valuable player indeed. He does not have the career milestones, and his short peak, while very good, was not excellent. We could all stipulate that anybody who experienced an injury during the grueling season could have done it. Upon becoming a Yankee, Maris became a different level of player. The 23,154 roaring fans at Yankee Stadium were quieted. be held against him. If anything, I think it strengthens the Hall by acknowledging the true single-season HR king. 61 in '61 was the number McGwire and Bonds were chasing. He played his final Major League game at age 34, retiring with a career .260/.345/.476 slash line. 1 year, 4 months. Sixty-one for Maris!". You will be charged Last night, Aaron Judge surpassed Roger Maris for both the New York Yankees' single-season home run record as well as the American League home run record. Only 19,401 attended the game to see only the second man in baseball history to hit 60 home runs in one season. Which makes it look like Maris is hitting the ball to himself. In the NL my childhood hero, Orlando Cepeda hit .311 with 46 home runs and an astounding 142 RBIs. The only thing Roger Maris had going for him was a major record. Roger Maris goes deep in the 3rd inning off Milt Pappas, a blast almost 400 feet into the bleachers in right field giving him 59 round trippers for the season, passing Jimmie Foxx and Hank Greenberg, but two short of breaking Babe Ruth's single season home run record. He batted third in their lineup. Gil Hodges, Jim Kaat, Minnie Mioso and Tony Oliva were elected by the Golden Days Era Committee (1950-69), while Bud Fowler and Buck ONeil were chosen by the Early Baseball Era Committee (pre-1950), as announced on MLB Network. While Maris may not be a household name for younger MLB fans, Aaron Judge's quest for 62 home runs has shone a little on the former New York slugger. Mantle rebutted these attempts to divide the two. Is this new new Crisser? Why Roger Maris isnt in the Hall of Fame - Pinterest Everything is relative, he led the majors in HR eight times). You may cancel your subscription at anytime by calling Where have you gone, Red Barrett? But, sportswriters didnt know that in 1960. He was an MVP the year before he broke the HR record (and the year he broke it too). At least he was a Yankee. It was a special accomplishment. WebMLB Never Forgave Roger Maris for Beating Babe Ruth Why isnt he in the Hall of Fame? Elroy Face:He went 18-1 out of the bullpen for the 1959 Pirates for a winning percentage of .947, best in history (with at least 10 decisions). (if applicable) for The Wall Street Journal. His personal hitting coach helped Judge from the beginning of his Yankee career, teaching him a set of unorthodox swing mechanics which potentiate his power. He was WebSep 6, 2022 - Lets talk about my dads favorite Hall of Fame case: Roger Maris. He and his wife, Pamela, live in New Jersey. I believe he needs to be inducted. WebRoger Maris was a really good baseball player who has only a small number of Hall of Fame years, including one that included a Hall of Fame accomplishment. He held the home run crown for so many years and his contribution to baseball probably should have given him what he needed; the call to Cooperstown. Expert The next season the American League added two teams and expanded the schedule to 162 games. With the Yankees, Reynolds went 131-60 with a 3.30 ERA in 295 regular-season games (209 starts), going 7-2 with a 2.79 ERA in 15 postseason games (nine starts). I dont claim to be an expert but I am a huge baseball fan. Maris had three games in which to "officially" break Ruth's record. He had a fine 822 OPS, which for that era was very good. This is the short version. If Aaron Judge eclipses him, itll be quite an accomplishment. Just 2-3 great seasons and a few more really good seasons isnt enough. The introverted outfielder dealt with such stress that his hair began to fall out. Kaat pitched briefly for the Yankees in 1979 and 80, then won seven Emmy Awards in the Yankees broadcast booth for MSG Network and the YES Network. in fact, it puts me very much in mind of Brady Anderson in the mid 90s. Read3 hours ago | Gerard Baker, Article viewed iconAn icon to mark the viewed articles But, Maris is way, way more famous than any baseball player not in the HOF. Thats true. The rest were cheaters and Roger wasnt. It is possible that any player since steroids were invented cheated. in fact, it puts me very much in mind of Brady Anderson in the I remember the pressure he was under from Mantle fans and the sports writers who didnt want him breaking the Babes record because he was not a hoeeme grown Yankee ( brutal treatment everyday in 1961) hes a hall of fame human being if not a ballplayer but in my boo hes both!!! After 134 games, Maris remained at 51 home runs and Mantle at 48. Why isn't Roger Maris in the hall of fame? - Answers Read21 hours ago | Lance Morrow, Article viewed iconAn icon to mark the viewed articles Put them both in. At least it still clings to 3 figures, the same seems not to apply about most who have posted here. PSA | Roger Maris Yes I know Namath is already in. I don't think anybody can argue reasonably that it isn't. Aaron , Robinson , Clemente and Colavito were all great players but Maris was probably better as an overall defensive player, even than Clemente.Roger Maris, who won two Most Valuable Player Awards, primarily for his offense, was better at fielding, in my opinion than hitting. Pretty much the only thing that I've learned about baseball and sports cards in the past few years is that I don't want to be involved. He would hit two home runs in his first game as a Yankee, finishing the season with 39 home runs, a .283 batting average, and an MVP award. Mariss career stats will continue to be evaluated by future veterans committees, so for those pulling for him, theres always a possibility. In my opinion Roger Maris belongs in the Hall of fame. His 1961 season was the best of his career, and one of the best seasons of all time. Aaron Judge is on pace for 65+. He absolutely legitimately hit 61 in '61, no ifs and or buts about it!!! Article Source: RSVP at Plays4pars@aol.com. Wiki User 2010-01-30 08:22:32 Study now See answer (1) Copy Roger Maris had a career batting average of .260, and 275 home runs. Roger Maris, seen here in the 1950s with the F-M Twins, would break Babe Ruth's home run record by hitting 61 in 1961 with the New York Yankees. McGwire said that breaking the single season home run record was a gift from the guy upstairs.
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