Weapons selector - War Thunder Wiki Here is what I am doing step by step: What is wrong? When it does get disabled eventually, there will be those that say that the missiles are useless. It's important to remember their shortcomings though - they're pretty useless above 5km, and even later missiles can still be easily dodged with careful flaring and evading. LbLt for Air to air, LbRt for air to ground. I found a workaround anyway, I lock on in gunner's view and fire in normal view.. Yes, that's a way of doing it, but there's still the option . It depends on how fast your aircraft is moving. The user interface with the weapons selector enabled can be seen to the right. How to fire missiles from drones?? :: War Thunder General Discussions 2. I think once I can be bothered, I'll just get rid of the "legacy" system and go to the weapon toggle and single button for weapon release, more realistic and fewer key binds. It's important to note that if you turn too hard, the missile can lose track of your radar beam and will be wasted. The targeting device often features a significantly zoomed-in view which makes target acquisition easier. I also get the fairness bit for those who don't have said vehicles hence immediate nerfs. 1) The "locking" indicator doesn't stay on..I have to almost constantly repress the key to bring up the circles, 2) Even with #1, it will often just not lock on (even when I looking right at the tail pipe of a mig17, it didn't lock at close to moderate range). Avg. Weapons selector mode is disabled, all four Sidewinder missiles must be fired before Skyflash missiles can be fired. These missiles have a camera in the nose that transmits a greyscale image to the pilot, allowing them to select and lock onto a high contrast static or moving target. In War Thunder, television-guided missiles refer to a class of missile guided by "optical contrast seekers". Weapons selector is not available for selecting between different armaments on naval or ground units. Press this control once to spool it up. thank you so much. Since you're in cockpit view you don't get to see the reticle, but it's smaller than the reflector sight/HUD on the cockpit. Post it in the comments below, and I'll overview and and possibly add it to the OP. I have tried air to ground missile launch, rockets, etc. Once set up, it allows the player to cycle through their primary and secondary weapons, and fire them using the same bound key. You are now the proud owner of what I consider (debatable) the most lethal CAS system in the game as of the writing of this post. Operational Method 2: TV-Guidance METHOD IS NOW DISABLED! Maximum overload during launch: Maximum Gs the aircraft can pull while the missile can still fire. Military aviation, Japanese arms and armour, nature, - Military Aviation from WWII - Present First-generation jets such as the F-86 Sabre and MiG-17 were soon equipped with very primitive missiles, though development quickly advanced into this new niche of air combat and missiles diversified into many distinct types during the Cold War as the aircraft alongside them advanced, such as the F-4 Phantom II or MiG-23. Once we know T, we candetermine the distance of the aircraft from the target at the moment of launch: Where D = the distance of the aircraft from the target at the moment of launch. How do I fire air-to-air missiles now? - War Thunder All trademarks, logos and brand names are the property of their respective owners. IR missiles are great for short-range knife fights where you're manoeuvring to get in shot of the enemy. I don't play SB. Do I have to switch to another view? Once this is done you'll hear the growling tone and the missile is ready to lock. all in all the implementation is quite well done and I could not find any contradiction with historic data I could find for it. 20112023 Gaijin Games Kft. How much time is that? This is particularly useful for aircraft with . Twitter : https://twitter.com/TimsVarietyFacebook : https://www.facebook.com/TimsVarietyGaming/Twitch : https://www.twitch.tv/timsvariety==============================Mig-25 line art by Kaboldy, Used under Creative CommonsUncaged IR Seeker clip by M. Begenat, Used under Creative CommonsTIMESTAMPS00:00 Intro And Keybinds01:39 Types Of Missiles03:29 Reading A Missile Stat Card05:03 Range And Energy06:57 MCLOS Manual Command Line Of Sight Missiles08:20 SACLOS Beam Riding Missiles09:47 Caged-Seeker IR Guided Missiles11:32 Uncaged-Seeker IR Guided Missiles14:06 SARH Semi Active Radar Homing Missiles17:04 ARH Active Radar Homing (Plus IOG and DL)22:18 Weapon Selection And Cycling22:56 Missing Advanced Features, Closing Minutia It's something I do to my series X and my 360 regularly to keep them for overheating and causing frame rate issues like this. As a long time fan/player of War Thunder with quite ALOT of games played I am really saddened by Gaijin's decision making for this years OP SUMMER. You are removing ALL incentive for grinding or buying your way to the new vehicles other than just to have a "rare" vehicle in your hanger. When you have a lock in the "TRACK" mode, the circle/s will turn red and sound a sharper tone - you are then ready to press "Fire air-to-air missile" again and fire. Ah, that I hadn't done. While they generally have lower maximum overload than IR missiles, SARH missiles are not to be underestimated as you often don't see them coming from 10-30km+. Connection to the missile can be by wire or radio waves. I've set mine to use the arrow keys. Broadly speaking, there are two kinds of AAM: Missiles emerged shortly after WWII as the new form of air weaponry. I have been able to hit targets in game (and in test flight) and seen it used against teammates in game as well..so it does work..but maybe not consistently. And then even when it's growling at least 50% of the time it still doesn't lock (this is at less than 3km usually, and the maximum range is supposedly 4km). Add it back if they ever go more modern to the McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II literally a waist of a missile or would they prefer unguided missiles in that era. Once you're at the optimal launch position, launch the missile and, before guiding it, move your aircraft either slightly above or to the side of the smoke trail so that you can actually see the missile. Television guided missiles are also unable to be used at night and in other low visibility conditions such as adverse weather. that's it? Thanks for the info. Anyone know the binding to shoot the damn things? I don't think the missiles are working realistically. Operational Method 2: TV-Guidance (AB/RB ONLY). Just get a wired mouse and keyboard, it's what I use. But here's the thing: this also happens in like a super straight line when I don't pull any G's!! Remember guys, I just want to reiterate that even though the TV-guidance method is now disabled as it should be, this weapon system is still extremely lethal. With the exception of self-guiding missiles, all helicopter-launched air-to-ground missiles are guided by the cursor (much like aircraft SACLOS missiles). So, I just got my first top-tier which is the german Mig-21MF, and just barely got the first missiles which are the R3-S (through literal torture of a grind, as the cannon is useless on this thing). As for the drop of the rocket, you're also correct. You can easily reproduce the issue in Simulator Test Flight. so point the drone at what i want to shoot at then fire air-to-ground missile? By default air to air is Alt+X to activate the missiles and Alt+Space to fire them once locked. First, we need to know how much total time elapsed between missile launch and missile impact, so we'll set up the equation as follows: Where Va= velocity of the aircraft in m/s, T = elapsed time, and Vm= the velocity of the missile. You'll need to assign key bindings for both. The rest of the time, it says "load factor too high" and doesn't fire!! This is a subreddit for War Thunder, a cross platform vehicular combat MMO developed by Gaijin Entertainment for Microsoft Windows, macOS, Linux, PlayStation 4, PlayStation 5, Xbox One and Xbox Series X|S. I don't even think the weapon select on/off is even necessary, just the regular guns buttons and a drop/fire ordnance button and another to toggle what you are dropping/firing. This view gets activated when you push the assigned weapon lock on button, and you can only see it in gunner's view! Several different types of AGMs exist: Manual Command to Line of Sight (MCLOS) also known as command guided, Semi Automatic Command to Line of Sight (SACLOS), Television guided (TV), Infrared guided (IR), Laser guided, and Beam riding. In SB there are 2 gunner views, one for guns and air to air missiles and one for ATGMs. Might help when you can't use gunner view of whatever reason (dead gunner, for example). It is critical that you set up the weapons selector correctly or else you may find yourself in a situation where you are unable to use any weaponry on your aircraft. Some planes and AGMs however have IR or thermal imaging and can be used at night and have better targeting quality. Don't worry though; I've already done the math for you. The gunner can fire ATGMs while the pilot can't). How to fire radar guided missiles in War Thunder Hunting Fox 569 subscribers Subscribe 352 Share 15K views 2 years ago #WarThunder #Tutorial A quick tutorial on how to fire Fox One type. Go to Controls -> Aircraft -> Weaponry, and scroll down to yaw/pitch axis for aim weapons (shown below). All trademarks, logos and brand names are the property of their respective owners. The missile will guide itself towards the target, leaving the pilot free to manoeuvre the aircraft and evade any anti-air defences. What do I need to do? You have to keep the target on the upper part of the HUD to keep the reticle lined up, above the crosshair. Powered by Invision Community, [Tutorial] How to use the AGM-12B Bullpup, Math, History, WarThunder, Vehicular Combat, Civil Discussions, U.S. Armed Forces, On the Tropic of C a N c E r a legitimate location. I try to fire Air to Air missile but it won't fire??? To use this method, start by approaching the battle zone at an altitude of about 2 km (1.24 mi/6562 ft). Because the second you first spot the enemy silhouette, you have entered what I call the "safe launch zone," a distance of about 5.75kilometers (3.57mi) where you can guide your missile/pull off, and be relatively safe from enemy SPAAs. Read this section carefully, improperly setting up the weapons selector can lead to the inability to use any weapons. Instead the bombs must be selected by pressing the "Switch secondary weapons" key until the ">" symbol moves to the bombs (pressing the key will cycle between each available secondary weapon; in this case AIM-9Gs, Skyflashes, 540 lb and 1,000 lb bombs, and SNEB rockets). Marathon. That was only once. Essentially, a smart (or unskilled, depending on how you see it) pilot will simply hold "U" during the entire duration of the missile's flight, and use it to TV-guide the missile directly to the target. Required fields are marked *. Information and UI is current as of the \"Danger Zone\" update in June 2022 which added the F-14 and Active Radar missiles.==============================I'm all over the place! Could you post videos showcasing each method individually? The "Switch secondary weapons" key can be pressed to activate the weapons selector and switch between launching the different suspended armaments. It is probably going to be the safest method of use, and the most rewarding, but also the hardest. Air-to-ground missiles (AGMs) were added to the game in Update 1.79 "Project X" with the AGM-12B Bullpup. So as you see, up to distances of about 1.5 km, you don't really have to lead the target that much. I've re-assigned by "fire air-to-air missile" key and it still doesn't fire. I don't see anything like that in gunner view. Your email address will not be published. 1.) Are you sure it's a bug? if you have bombs on Space Bar, one could assign "Fire Secondary Weapon" also to Space Bar, because as said, whatever weapon firing it normally is assigned to will be overridden while in Weapon Selection Mode. Then you should bind the "Fire secondary weapon" control. The wing-mounted 1,000 lb bombs are selected. -4. If I want to hit the target when the aircraft is about 4 km out, just at the max distance where you can still see the flare like I mentioned above, we'll need to known the distance to launch the missile from so it will impact at that distance. At least make it have a limited range so the TV guided part can be used that would work it doesnt need to circle the entire length of the world like dovabear to just then hit its target. Removing the camera view is just one of these. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. You generally want to use these at long range, but some advanced SARH missiles like the Skyflash or AIM-7F are great in dogfights too! These are the keys you will use to cycle through your primary and secondary weapons, so bind them to something which will be accessible during flight. Operational Method 1: Standard Guidance. This differs from other laser-guided missiles, in that the missile is guided by the laser beam itself rather than guiding towards the reflection of the laser on the target. I cant find it anywhere. Ok don't worry figured it out you need to assign a key to switch weapons, and a separate to "exit" the weapon select mode yikes thats dumb. Unlike later missiles, they can't home in on something like the heat of the friction on the front of an aircraft. I'll update the post once it's fixed. Its RB. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Fires the selected secondary weapon, regardless of what type it is (only works while weapons selector mode is enabled). It's way too overpowered and easy to use. 1. chillobreeki 2 yr. ago. Step 3: Download the AGM vs Tank user mission(paste in UserMissions folder). Yes annoying but workable, e.g. One more thing: I highly recommend that you guys check out these two videos below showcasing the system in the user mission. speed of aircraft during attack run: After entering missile launch zone, launch missile after: 400 kph (249 mph) 27.4 sec, 500 kph (311 mph) 18.8 sec, 600 kph (373 mph) 12.6 sec, 700 kph (435 mph) 7.87sec, 800 kph (497 mph) 3.58sec, 900 kph (559 mph) 0.00 sec. In the example below, the Phantom FGR.2 is carrying four Skyflashes, four AIM-9G Sidewinders, two 1,000 lb bombs, three 540 lb bombs, and SNEB rockets. Report post Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) On 18/12/2018 at 12:41, EpicBlitzkrieg87 said: That's what they do in the game. The first of this type of weapon were used in the Vietnam War. Then, just circle the battlefield until you find a target, and then dive on him. Cookie Notice In the example below, the Spitfire Mk IIb has both 7.7 mm machine guns and 20 mm cannons. You're in luck; during the grinding period of the event, several community CDK data miners and mission makers managed to create a user mission with the AGM-12B Bullpup mechanics and get it working. This is simply not true. The other reason why you need to count off in your head is because you need to know when to launch the missile. Landing a clean shot on a difficult target. Locking may be a bit more difficult. Your video looks like AB and I play sim only. The new system is really janky but it seems this system is making it so you can switch not only between missiles but also types of guns, rockets and bombs which is why its not just 1 button keybind. The idea is to. Press lock-on button and 2 circles appear, I try to keep the target in the inner smaller circle and the beep beep beep converts into a long steady sound beeeeeeeeep (is that the lock-on confirmation?). Once the motor burns out,the horizontal acceleration is zero. What good are guided rockets if you cant see where its going you carry a censor pod on the right wing one of the most sophisticated weapons systems and your shooting blind I was looking forward to guide it to its target and no that target's not a player tank rather a base now its useless might as well be removed. albeit IS-7 could do 8.3. i play against them in 7.7 with my leo 1 and dude 8 - 10 match we lose against is 7, These vehicles describe the jumbo syndrome better than the jumbo itself. If I screwed up badly, however, post your evidence and proof, and I'll correct my calculations accordingly. event mentioned previously; it is NOT an payloadoptionfor the FJ-4B in the regular tech tree. In case you haven't figured it out, that's how it's supposed to work. Press the "weapon lock" button. Writer for EverythingWarThunder and owner of the 23rd Ghost Army historical battles group. I'm not going to bother explaining this method much, because it's so easy and IMO overpowered that anyone can master it extremely quickly. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. If there is more than one secondary weapon of the same type (e.g. 3. It moves clockwise around the circle, and it shows the strength of the radar waves reflecting off the target - the more complete the circle, the stronger the signal. AB is a big mess: small maps with jets put into one place and "amazing" physics. Afaik RB and SB share the same missile physics and mechanics. https://warthunder.com/en/game/changelog/current/867. For more information, please see our All rights reserved. There is no little white text at the bottom when firing it! And here's the thing: As mentioned before, the missile has a rocket motor that burns for about 3.5 seconds, and during that time period, the missile flies extremely straight, making it easy to use as an unguided rocket. 3. Remember, you're aircraft will be mostly traveling in a straight line while you're guiding the missile, making you easy food. SARH missiles work by your aircraft locking onto the target with its own radar. Here is a screenshot of the assigned controls you need to activate the "lock" and keep the target inside the smaller circle - the activation will "growl" and when locked, it will change tone..you then fire. A flare is considered a decoy, depending on the material it is made from to either burn as hot or hotter than the aircraft's exhaust in an attempt to cause the missile to target it. Another use for the weapons selector is choosing which bombs to drop for aircraft with multiple bombs. In the game this is represented by two grey circles - the inner being the seeker's head, and the outer being the limit of its gimbal. How do I use AIR TO AIR and AIR TO GROUND missiles? By Archived post. It might take a bit of practice, but once you have it mastered, you're good to go! I go to test flight mode, take off and there is actually a jet fighter passing by. Even if you get close to your target, and I mean as close as a couple of hundred meters, there is significant drop of the rocket, just like the Tiny Tim, so aiming in SB is almost similar to using Tiny Tims. Weapons selector mode is enabled, all guns are being fired by the "Fire primary weapon" key. The weapons selector, introduced in Update "Raining Fire", allows the player to select which of an aircraft's primary and secondary weapons should be used. Event FJ-4B Fury. Without steering input from the player, the missile will behave like a simple unguided rocket. Once the growling changes into a continuous tone you have a lock, so you press the launch button and let the missile do its job. The weapons selector can also be used to switch between different guns on an aircraft. Privacy Policy. Cycles through your secondary weapons (and enables weapons selector mode). With theupcoming intro of Several new war time franchises competition for player base will get intense for the foreseeable future. While the weapons selector is active the rockets cannot be fired by pressing the "Fire rocket" key, instead they must be fired by selecting them and pressing the "Fire secondary weapon" key. Valve Corporation. 20112023 Gaijin Games Kft. It is up to you what you bind this to, but it is probably a good idea to use the same key bind as one of your normal secondary weapons (bombs, rockets, missiles, etc.). Flares are infrared countermeasures fired off by aircraft to counter infrared homing (heat-seeking) missiles. 20112023 Gaijin Games Kft. After a missile of this type is launched, the gunner or pilot watches the motor or tracer components of the missile and sends correcting guidance commands to keep the projectile on target. How "tight" the missile can turn. In the example below the P-47D-28 would usually have to drop its two 1,000 lb bombs first, however with the weapons selector the 500 lb bomb can be dropped first, if desired. Why should I bother learning operational method 1 (standard guidance) when I could just use operational method 2 (TV-guidance)? Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). I've found myself at the wrong end of a couple R-60s and they only fired when I was around 1km from them. I'm just going to briefly touch on how to set up the missile controls. Powered by Invision Community, Aviation, Russian aircraft (MiGs) and history. However, unless things are different in actual battles I did manage to use missiles on Test Flight in SB difficulty. I took a Thunderbolt and a Skyhawk out in test drive on RB settings, and I definitely could not fire my guns while I had weapon select on in order to drop bombs or fire rockets/missiles. The aircraft points a target-illuminating laser onto the desired target and when the missiles is fired it will fly automatically towards the laser point on the target. Tried it out, and it works. This page was last edited on 7 February 2023, at 10:16. Launch the missile, then quickly press and hold "U." the second part of the 2018 Operation S.U.M.M.E.R. When the weapons selector is activated a number of things will happen. no, you really don't BUUUUUUUUUT if people don't Gaijin will prolly decide its cuz they are under powered and buff the out of them. I've set mine to use the arrow keys. This complete guide to air to air missiles in War Thunder goes over basic missile concepts, guidance types, keybinds, and how to use them in the game. Select Secondary Weapon (to get into the mode and cycle through): SHIFT + RMT Fire Secondary Weapon: RMT (outside of mode, I have it assigned to MGs) Exit Weapon Selection Mode: CTRL + RMT Best regards, Phil Report post Posted September 3, 2020 Try this. Once launched, the missile will attempt to keep itself in the centre of the beam that is projected out from the launch platform. sniperNZSAS, September 3, 2020 in General Discussion. I found a workaround anyway, I lock on in gunner's view and fire in normal view. The Sidewinder is rather poor at tracking and I don't remember having to wait 6 seconds to get a lock with either missile in DCS, but I guess that's off-topic here. As the camera does not provide any infrared information, it may sometimes be accidentally locked onto high contrast objects in the vicinity of the intended target instead, which can cause a miss if the target subsequently moves away from the area.
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