By using this site, you agree to the following.Terms of Use | Privacy Policy | GuidelinesWe have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. A disconnector in a 1911 is a vertical bit of magic connected to the fire control system (hammer, sear, spring, etc. No problems. 1001 Los Rios Boulevard, Suite 100 Occasionally, the guide rod can get wedged into a weird position in the frame and cause the slide to hang up during disassembly. Well i was field stripping my series 70 and the slide stop is stuck half way out and it wount come all the way out. Can you post some pictures so we can visualize what is going on? Or, at least it shot anyways. ), moving up and down depending upon what's going on. I can get the recoil spring and cover out, but when I turn the barrel nut to where it is supposed to come out, it does not move. # 3 07-14-2009, 9:25 PM Jason762 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Oakland-ish Posts: 1,707 iTrader: 38 / 98% First, check the safety. I was taught to clean and relube after each use. The later issue, hammer falling when slide closed, was due to the sear spring (flat spring) falling out and down upon reinstalling. The disconnector seems to function fine, it's almost like the firing pin safety LIFTER is the issue? I feel kind of dumb, but I've never had this happen before. Early U.s. Gi 1911. Powered by Invision Community. Sarge the BFH is the first thing that occurred to me but I'm trying to keep calm! I cannot get it back into battery no matter how forceful I push or slap the backstrap. I'm not sure I was doing it either way, I'll have to look into it. Read more. check out the. If it is doing it's job the plunger should not be touching a thing, therefore the scuffs would concern me. May 21, 2012. 1,911. Financing expenses. Hi so I just installed a new Wilson combat extended slide release on my new Springfield operator and it went in fine but when the slide is closed and I try to open it its almost like it gets caught on something before opening. And now it is stuck closed. Then on the 3rd mag toward end of mag, it failed to eject and now the slide is stuck in the closed position. My guess is that your locking block spring slipped out of place and is jamming the flap up. Either way, break it down and clean it before shooting it." Never fired, stored gun of that age? It is not sticking up as it should. Any suggestions? 1. I've seen them have to go to a gunsmith after guys not used to the technique try the standard way. print for the 1911A1 shows the frame hole as .201 inches by .002 inches. Slow release gives a reset and much shorter trigger pull for next shot. This normally happens if you try to disassemble while holding the grip safety. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. Crash69. I was going to advice the original OP not to drop the slide on an empty chamber, but I don't want to start another argument on this topic since it's been covered a couple of times already. If you are looking for a local FFL to ship a product to, visit our Find an FFL page. The problem is fixed. In the Slide Release method, the slide release (arrow) on this 1911 is pushed down to allow the slide to go forward. If the shooter holds the gun in the right hand, the left-hand thumb can be used. "I did it for me. Also be aware that all of the solvent and oil you have in that case may start to break down that foam and you don't want that stuff in or on your gun - especially if you are storing the gun in that case. And no if you remove the disconnector you don't get a "machine . This will take a small amount of force, and you will get it to go forward approximately 3mm. It could be the grips are interfering with the safety. The only way to fix the malfunction was to drop the mag, smack the back of the slide really hard, and then I could fire the round and stare at my gun in confusion. Whatever you buy from them, using those banners, gives us a small commission, which helps us keep these sites alive. When you assemble or disassemble it you need to grip the frame to engage the grip safety and everything should slide together nice and easy. Slide stuck CLOSED on a Para 1911 By TnShooter83 February 18, 2014 in Gunsmithing & Troubleshooting Followers 0 TnShooter83 Inactive Member 583 Location: Knox, Tn Posted February 18, 2014 Here is my issue. Mechanically speaking, it sounds like your slide is being jammed by the barrel pushing upward too hard when it engages. Just curious, but have you tried removing the grips, and seeing if that solved the problem? I called kimber and told them what happened, they had no idea what could have happened said next time it happened to leave it alone and send it in. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. I purchased a used springfield 1911-A1. I fired a total of two rounds and the slide froze on the rail. - Walter White. Can you take out the recoil spring and plug? I was just practicing taking the slide lock in and out of my 1911 (learning how to do it without the idiot mark) and I have somehow gotten my slide stuck in an in-between position (not fully back or forward). That would be Kimber's Schwartz firing pin safety. Please email my Technical Team at support@shadowsystemscorp.com so they can figure out what is going on there, because that shouldnt be happening. It was used when we got it. Edit, didn't read down far enough.. Bushing is off, guide rod, spring and barrel are loose but slide is hanging up on something on frame and will not move in either direction. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. The disconnector just sit DOWN in the frame. When I function check the pistol the hammer will fall. A solution without a problem. If this is your first visit, be sure to Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Smack the front of the barrel with your palm, nothing else. It looks ok to me and the guy at the gun shop. When I function check the pistol the hammer will fall. Loaded a magazine with the snap caps. I got it apart with some effort - the spring on that thing is heavy and the gun is well oiled. Have about 300 rounds through my 1911 and after the last cleaning the slide seems very rough when It gets slid all the way back. Thank you all for your responses I really appreciate it, I've cleaned and left my custom II wet. Also, if the gun is new, flush out the firing pin and the extractor channels also. How about an answer with a question? This still leaves the slide detent button under spring pressure which could slow or interfere with smooth slide operation but I'll cross that bridge when I get there. If the thumb is long enough or if the shooter shifts his grip, the thumb of the right hand can be used. Hold the slide firmly in your weak hand. I tried to readjust the slide but it moved forward only slightly and after that I couldn't move the slide at all. Cookie Notice Share this post Technical Tuesday: When your skills don't matter That is one of the more common scenarios for jammed slides. Also be aware that all of the solvent and oil you have in that case may start to break down that foam and you don't want that stuff in or on your gun - especially if you are storing the gun in that case. Youll be the first to know about new products, sales, and special offers! I'm glad it's working properly now but I'm just curious to see if any of you have ever had this happen to any of your 1911's. I ran through the pistol, cleaned and oiled. It is stuck pretty good and the extractor ripped the rim off. Loaded that magazine. Load a single round in a magazine, insert it, rack, and fire checking for proper cycling, extraction, slide lock, and no hammer follow. Tennessee Gun Owners (TNGunOwners.com) is the premier Community and Discussion Forum for gun owners, firearm enthusiasts, sportsmen and Second Amendment proponents in the state of Tennessee and surrounding region. If i'm misunderstanding you please let me know but if not, then i'm not understanding how what you're doing is "function testing" anything. When I went to rack the slide it came back about a 1/4. No problems. By #kimber. Nope. Shine a light down the muzzle to see if there is an obstruction. Anything I should know about them any thing besides just load and go. check out the, Welcome to the Pennsylvania Firearm Owners Association Forum, we hope you like what you find here and we strongly encourage you to. Lifter as in the thing that presses the firing pin safety block up. Now slam your strong hand into the back of the grip being sure to depress the grip safety as you do it. You have to push up on the grip safety when you slide it off. i need some advice from the experts on this one since this is my first 1911 and im totally stumped. Very common to keep the trigger "trapped". (Doug Larson photo) Boom. We want to make your firearms purchases as simple as possible. See if you can covert it to a 70 series gun. Just make sure you don't pull the slide too far back when you want to take the slide off. Slide Sticking. I need help with the Castle Bushing on my AR.. Plano, TX 75074 USA, Customer Service: The only way to get the slide open is to release the trigger and cock the hammer. 1911 Pistols manufactured for foreign Governments either in US or outside US. Brought them home. I didn't mean to talk down at ya. So I lightly tapped the rear of the slide with a nylon hammer and it popped off but now I've got a gun I don't understand. You want to reinsert the slide stop straight in without rotating it from below. I wouldnt want this to happen to me again if my life depended on this gun. Well you can take the middle leaf of the sear spring down to 12oz without risk if the trigger moves smoothly. It's called the slide stop. Sign up for a new account in our community. I was unable to move the slide with my hands. The TGO state flag logo and the TGO tri-hole "icon" logo are trademarks of Tennessee Gun Owners. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Here's how that works: Tap Slam the bottom of the magazine with the palm of your hand to ensure it is seated properly. What am I doing wrong? Slide off and barrel out. Rack Rack the slide to clear the chamber and load a new round. No, it worked fine until I cleaned it. if the pull the trigger, the hammer falls an you left off the trigger will the slide come back? Before engaging in any transaction of goods or services on TGO, all parties involved must know and follow the local, state and Federal laws regarding those transactions. I have field and detail stripped 1911s many times with no problems and was completely baffled by this problem so if anyone ever hears of anything like this again, think Schwartz. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. I ran through the pistol, cleaned and oiled. This, in turn, causes the slide to be locked back. With my finger still on the trigger and pressed in, the slide will NOT open. Last edited by revencer; 17th March 2009 at 19:45 . Yesterday I went to unload it for cleaning and some dry-fire practice. I went to the range yesterday and ran 100 rounds with no issues. TNGunOwners.com and we will get the conversation started. If you are racking the slide empty and your index finger . Unfortunately, the slide is now stuck on the gun, and there is no way (apparently) to get it off. Bushing is off, guide rod, spring and barrel are loose but slide is hanging up on something on frame and will not move in either direction. I liked it. It's easy! Put on some gloves, With the muzzle pointed downrange grasp the slide very firmly using an overhand grip, Pointed downrange, Pointed downrange, Use your other gloved hand to firmly strike the grip of the frame as if you were going to grasp it. Load a full magazine and shoot an 8 round group checking for proper cycle, feed, ejection, and slide lock. In the end we fixed one problem and possibly created another. Treat me good, I'll treat you better. As HansGruber suggested - "You could also give it a tap after hitting it with lube. also check the plunger on the slide. EDIT vice, Punch, and hammer later I got the snap cap removed. 63K subscribers in the 1911 community. So how do I reassemble the gun? 2. slide stop (catch) cannot hold the slide closed, it can hold it open if it slides out of the frame slightly when the slide is open. My kimbers all like to run wet. Do it again. Recoil springs generally go 2 to 3 thous rounds with .45 ball equiv. M1911 Disassembly and reassembly animations, Tests of Products of general shooters interest, Airsoft/Air Gun Modifications, Troubleshooting and Maintenance. I think you uncovered it yourself, the slide stop was starting to back out of the gun and it jammed, IMHO. During firing I don't know. My Browning 1911-380 is very sensitive about that. It's a very easy fix. It can hang up on the bottom if there is a burr on either part. . For example, you may have reassembled the slide onto the frame, but forgot to put the barrel and recoil. Your help is appreciated. You still pay the normal price, our commission comes from their profit, so you have nothing to lose, while we have something to gain. ? And if this method of unsticking a stuck slide doesnt work, then what? Personally, after getting slide free from what seen, there appears to be crack inside sidewall above top of. Thanks. Only show this user. You all rock! Shadow Systems LLC Took my new SR22 to the range, and loved shooting it. I noticed the slide stop was not completely against the dust cover, after messing with the slide stop and pulling the slide back I got it to function. Learn how your comment data is processed. Boxed it up and returned it to Nevada. Nothing I could do would unstick it. How likely is this going to prevent it from coming back upon firing? i think it will be ok. ive worked the safety and slide a bunch and it seems to be working fine now. Disassembly problem . You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. maybe im wrong but im hoping it just need to get broken in. 2. 1911 slide stop stuck. Hard to explain but it's not sticking like it's too dry, more that it's hanging up on something like the ejector or the disconnector - I can wiggle it just enough to hear it contacting something metallic. 0 coins. Any input on my scenario would be greatly appreciated. It's really stuck - I cannot move the slide at all. My EDC is a full size Citadel 1911, which has always performed flawlessly. I went and shot with it the other day and put 50 rounds through it. https://www.youtube.com/user/Detman101 (Detman's channel)https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpbI0bpvjxlVI_-V8OIspzwSTS member Mike from MD.https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfptbSMpcVrxOzdR8xx52MgMike of TN our Volunteer state rep.http://home.nra.org/http://home.nra.org/nrailahttps://www.nraila.org/ I've found that inverting the slide assembly, and making sure the link is up, while initially sliding it onto the frame helps keep things aligned properly. AndI wasreallyI was alive." Check the series 80 arm on the framesounds like you may have bent or broke it. I'd be a little concerned that it's dragging enough to prevent racking the slide back. I could not get the slide lock to go back in, as the hole would never line up. Thank you for joining our email list. Unless you some how have super fast trigger finger. Hmm. WillM The feed ramp seems too far forward so I assume the spring must have slipped and allowed the barrel to advance forward as I pushed the slide back. Also be aware that all of the solvent and oil you have in that case may start to break down that foam and you don't want that stuff in or on your gun - especially if you are storing the gun in that case. Use the correct terminology to avoid confusion; "barrel bushing". It may take a couple of times but 99/100 this will free the live round. I believe its when it slides over the disconnector. Occasionally, the guide rod can get wedged into a weird position in the frame and cause the slide to hang up during disassembly. Jul 13, 2007. You can't post a reply in it. Bang Pull the trigger. have you tried removing the slide?Another thing you can try is hold the slide with your left hand really hard,and hit the grip with the right as if you were gripping the gun.That is one trick that i learned when similar problem happened with my 1911.Safety in off position of course,hammer cocked.You want the slide to go back all the way. Powered by Invision Community. I was just practicing taking the slide lock in and out of my 1911 (learning how to do it without the idiot mark) and I have somehow gotten my slide stuck in an in-between position (not fully back or forward). loads. TnShooter..what was the issue that was fixed? One should only rotate the TD lever Open or Closed when the slide is locked open to the rear, so what you ultimately need to do is move the slide to the rear to lock it open, but you'll probably need to alternately move the slide a bit backward, then move the TD lever a bit clockwise to open more, then the slide again, then the TD lever again. I did the standard drill: dropped the magazine, safe direction, finger off trigger, safety off, rack the slide to eject the chambered round. AndI wasreallyI was alive." The recommended Shadow Systems method to field strip the gun. When you've fired the last round in your pistol's magazine, the magazine's follower pushes up against the slide stop and causes it to catch in a recess in the pistol's slide. Any help is appreciated thanks! BrianEnos.com Remember the grip safety, if not depressed, will keep an XD locked shut. The frame stuck out maybe 1/4 inch from the end of the frame. He and took it a part and put it back together. Industry Announcements and Press Releases, Questions and Suggestions about M1911.ORG sites, Your Opinion about M1911.ORG and its sites, More than one of the above (questions pertaining to more than one brands), US Military Issue M1911 and M1911A1 Pistols, Commercial Colt Government Model, Ace, SM Ace, Super .38 and Commander pistols. As did I and we got he/we slide to work. Once partly down the angled notch in the slide will push it down the rest of the way. Just reading about the problem the other day. I have at least 20 striker fired pistols and half of them Glocks, for over 25 years, and Ive NEVER had this problem with any of them, ever. I took it apart and did not see any shavings or deep scratching on either the dust cover or slide, no abnormal wear. yep thats the first thing i did and no luck. Another view of it. Do you think you might have a design flaw? With my finger still on the trigger and pressed in, the slide will NOT open. Check your grip and make sure you're not applying pressure to the end of the slide stop pin. Because when you normally fire a pistol you are still pressing the trigger as the slide opens. Dry slide is a bad thing. Privacy Policy. After field stripping, as I was pushing the slide back, I heard a slight grind and now the slide is stuck half open! Whatever you buy from them, gives us a small commission, which helps us keep these sites alive. Thanks foe all the suggestions - keep me coming. I bought snap caps today to use with it. Treat me bad, I'll treat you worse. 1911 slide won't come off 1911 slide won't come off. Safety will not turn to removal positon, due to being jammed over the slide. I bought snap caps today to use with it. Point the gun at the bench angle it so the only the edge of the slide is touching, then pull the slide back with the free hand while pushing down with the grip hand. Thanks for all of the replies. Slide is stuck on frame of Kimber Target 2 9mm and I can't budge it. Jan 13, 2022. Malfunctions Due to Ammo or Gun Mechanics Here are the different types of gun malfunctions and what to do about them: Squib Load We are saddened to share news that long-time forum member and gun rights activist in Pennsylvania, Kim Stolfer, has passed away. Never had that happen. Try turning it upside down and banging/shaking the snot out of it while trying to move the slide. I have not seen why you would make each choice. We cover that here as well. A forum community dedicated to all 1911 firearm owners and enthusiasts. The gun is not dirty, I had cleaned it a good 250 rounds ago before this happened and it still doesn't show signs of build up. Sounds like something is broke then. Cant be stuck if its liquid. You need to figure out why the slide stop was backing out and fix it. Disassemble the frame and pull the disconnector out. If this is your first visit, be sure to We just got it tonight. You have to use some force to push the slide open. A viewer recently asked about a problem he had with his 1911 locking the slide open after inserting a magazine into it. 2. Not 100% on this, but I would try a shorter linking pin (that connector between the takedown lever and the barrel). January 19, 2014 in General Gunsmithing. Sign up for a new account in our community. The opinions expressed on TGO are those of their authors and do not necessarily reflect those of the site's owners or staff. By 2. If you are looking for a local FFL to ship a product to, Technical Tuesday: Slide stuck during disassembly, Technical Tuesday: When your skills dont matter, Technical Tuesday: The marksmanship thing that no one talks about, Shadow Systems Releases Long-Slide Full-Size DR920L, Shadow Systems Launches Thread-On Compensator, Shadow Systems Launches Full-Feature, Low-Price Option in FOUNDATION SERIES, Introducing the FOUNDATION SERIES by Shadow Systems. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Shadow Systems LLC 2023. I am not referring to the turning of the barrel nut, rather the removal of the nut after it has been turned to the proper location. 1911 Thumb safety stuck. Anyone ever hear of a failure like this? By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Recoil spring plug removed--spring not under compression? Completeour simpleformand we will get the conversation started. You may be able to see the brass from the spent round. A forum community dedicated to 1911 firearm owners and enthusiasts. Recoil springs generally go 2 to 3 thous rounds with .45 ball equiv. I will keep an eye on that slide stop and we shall see how it does from here on out. For more information, please see our - Walter White. Hello Kimber and 1911 lovers, I have a custom II and the last time I was at the range the slide stayed open after the second shot, I released the mag and the slide was super stuck. When I function check the pistol the hammer will fall. I liked it. Cases are intended to be used for transport or shipping only for short periods. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
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