Deni Tomkinson, "sack the police" indeed because DCI Gary Jubelin - the detective who led the search for William Tyrrell - was removed from the case over misconduct allegations recently. Watched a movie and she was just still kind of paranoid. The foster mother, now 56, was at the home with her own mother with William and his sister when the boy is believed to have disappeared. Bishop PD, CHP flying overthey had their copter today. If she did say this then we note that she brings the bike closer to her, she has a strong connection with it. One-piece?Disappeared during the night?Head shaved?Mother looking down at top of his head? She and William's foster father have experience in real estate and property, and according to a police statement by William's late foster grandmother were assisting in the sale of the Benaroon Drive, Kendall house on the fateful trip on which the boy vanished. In January they won, when Justice Brereton ruled that releasing the information would not have a negative impact on the case. Looking at either the first or second use of the word we end up with the same outcome which is deceptive language.A clever criminal may commit a crime and then drive round in order to be witnessed by others so as to appear they were looking/searching for a missing person. If that is the case, could you please communicate that to me in a direct and straight manner instead of (unaddressed) comments talking about "blah blah" and ""strange" people" and invoking "guidance" and "feelings about this and that" and muddies the water, etc.? Not in touch with reality. Who was I to him? Mamamia contacted the group, but they were unable to respond in time for publishing. I will tell you why this detail is vivid in her mind. A car has been seized from a property in Sydney as part of fresh investigations into the disappearance of William Tyrrell seven years ago. There is no suggestion that any of William's foster family or his biological family had anything to do with his disappearance. they have nothing to be ashamed of for being in foster care? Shes not simply in the desert or somewhere in the desert, shes out in the desert. Operator: How long has he been missing?Foster Mother: I th well, I think, well, we've been looking him for him now for about fifteen or twenty minutes butWe can deduce that I th well, I think, well are almost repeated words which indicate sensitivity to the question. The child is not William Tyrrell. I am an adult in the autism spectrum and the extraneous comments are too much for me. She self-censors as it looks like she was going to say not that I know of but changes to say aware of which makes a big difference. Secondly we have more negative language used and again the fact that they do know a lot of what went on that day. "The photobooks are his memories they show you the innocence and love his sister and him have for each other," their foster mother told the NSW Coroner's Court. But then weakens her statement by saying she was dozing off and waking up. "I hope this speech makes you solve the case," she said. William Tyrrell's sister says when she grows up she will become a I believe Casey Anthony said something like I feel shes really close. In July 2014, they took William to Bali on a holiday and it was there they bought the Spider-Man obsessed toddler his blue-and-red Spider-Man suit. There seems to be a need to convince that she was a good and attentive step-mom. Operator: OK can you describe him to me how tall, obviously not very tall but approximately Foster Mother: No, he'd be about two and a half feet. The foster parents successfully cleared all those hurdles and in 2011 were approved as carers of children on short term orders. 'He's homeless,' she said. The family returned to Sydney in early August and William was attending day care at a north shore child centre. By adding in what would be obvious she draws attention to the fact she has a need to convince.We could also look at the order of the statement. Some children do go missing where the parent or caretaker who is making the emergency call indicate guilt due to neglect or failure to protect, rather than criminal guilt. Even regarding the mark on the head, the operator asked about any distinguishing features, and the foster mother gave her one. John, I wondered about something like that too (falling from a tree, I mean), especially since:1. Listen to The Quicky debrief on the truth about William Tyrrells parents, and what happened after the three-year-olds disappearance. Detectives take items for testing including a mattress, computer and vehicles. The windows of these cars are tinted and no person can be seen. Regarding the abduction scenario and the cars the mother remembered six days later. William Tyrrell foster care: why did that remain secret for - Mamamia "As such, it is insufficient to trump the right of free expression, in connection with the accountability, in a democratic free society, of public officials and agencies in respect of the welfare of children in out-of-home-care, which is a matter of considerable legitimate public interest. Are you watching the video? William Tyrrell Was In Foster Care - Facebook ] seem smaller than it actually is. She chooses these details to report all relating to his head. Nine months after William Tyrrell was born on June 26, 2011, he was taken from his birth parents, who had a history of substance abuse and domestic violence. A detective has told a court he thinks Tyrrell's foster mother knows where the missing boy is. Possibly the mother was thinking in terms of her relationship to the children - William was her foster child, and his sister was her other foster child. How close is the subject to the person that has gone missing? William Tyrrell foster parents named as persons of interest as police The public were only a couple of years ago. She does not wish to be alone in the boy going missing. Your comment about the cell phone I find very interesting (unless the foster mother used a landline). At that point she may have seen the freckle. Where the hell is she? Also: in that case the foster parents probably would not have been allowed to have another foster child ever again. Autumn your right the transcript of that interview (which I hadnt seen) is not accurate at all. 6:14PM November 3, 2022. Interesting quote from Mike Pence:He said some things that are critical of my Christian faith and about me personally. It's in good hands." Indeed its as if she features in play. And like him, the identity of most remains protected under The Children and Young Persons (Care and Protection) Act - a piece of legislation designed in the interests of the "safety, welfare and well-being" of young people in care. So our suspicions arise when we see the extra word as it suggests the person is comparing his answer against the number of drinks they really had. He'd told a chemist 'I need them (pills) because I lost my son seven years ago', and reportedly began to cry. William Tyrrell inquest finishes 18 months of evidence with - ABC She remains before the courts, the police statement said. What was William Tyrrell's Foster Mother's Excuse in 2014 - YouTube Its all about their own grief and their daughter having to learn to live without her brother. OT-Karlie GuseAdrian, Thank you for looking up and watching that video. Photo: AAP. By saying red, red, red, she consciously refers to the Spiderman outfit, but I wondered: is she reliving a bloody accident (red, red, red, etc).As for the burnt out car in the woods: if this was really the car William was abducted in -> would the kidnapper hide the car in the woods near the crime scene and leave it there for several years? That could give us a good focus point in the timeline.I think I am on to something major but before I say anything I want to confirm how many people were at the house at the time of Williams disappearance. On September 12, 2014, William Tyrrell was playing with his older sister in the garden of his foster grandmother's home, while his foster mother watched on. Yeah, and did he get rid of his car soon after the incident? Also, why does she use present tense here? OT: Karlie Guse"Were coming up on ten hours (breathless) and nows the part where Im saying I have to do something because weve had CHP fly over, weve had the, Inyo County, Inyo Mono County Sher-, um, Sheriffs flying over, er, ah. So, I wanted to put them out there [because] obviously the trolls are roaming and, um, [I'm not a liar. That fact is now public knowledge because the New South Wales Supreme Court on Wednesday allowed a small, Facebook group called Walking Warriors 4 Missing Children to publish it. Public confusion about William's family was immediate as, instead of a tearful family before the TV cameras begging for his return, a family friend stood awkwardly by then Local Area Commander Paul Fehon. And, now I can release more information about the events, just, lots of questions that I haven't been allowed to talk about because of the investigation. You can go to prison and physically serve time for a crime, and it be deemed you have paid your dues to society upon release. The foster mother had intended taking family photos of William placing a drawing on Opa's grave, which is in Kendall cemetery on a ridge above the Benaroon Drive house. He was not at the grandmother's house at that time supposedly to get better phone reception.Also, interestingly, at 12:03 in the first part of the interview it is as if the foster mother has a slip of the tongue saying William is dead. Have those sightings been discredited? For his biological family, the pain of not knowing what happened to William on the morning of September 12, 2014, has been a constant source of anguish. The fact she says "my other daughter" says it all. The foster mother told the court how she was told not to call Mr Laidlaw, but to instead go through other investigators on the team. Three past tense references from Williams father.While listening through the interview looking for omitted parts of the transcript I found:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZALVhn0hElY8m 15 secondsP: Parents know their own kids, dont they?D: He [was] cautious, hed cower away as little children would normally do, but he [was], he [had] this instinct about him about doing the right and wrong thing.Two uses of the word was, instead of he is cautious we get he [was] cautious. It is pure fabrication. If they had not seen anything they would tell you exactly that sorry I didnt see anything. Disappearance of William Tyrrell - Wikipedia To say you have to do something is different from actually doing it. William's foster-mother, who cannot be identified due to a suppression order, was one of the last people to see the child. Can she not come home by herself? It would make more sense for Melissa to say the last time she saw her.-She didnt take her cell phone. Ive heard Peter say that when someone mentions a phone in a statement, it is sensitive and places them at the scene. "FACS NEED TO BE ACCOUNTABLE! They were the parents of at least 4 sons. Thank you for your kindness. Investigations under strike force Rosann continue.. But the most interesting part of the above quote is yet to come. The home renovations included a new bedroom that was meant for William. April 17 - Police say the boy may have been a victim of a paedophile ring. I would want all scenarios including Karlie being in the desert thoroughly researched in such a situation. September 12 - Dressed in a Spider-Man outfit, three-year-old William Tyrrell goes missing from the garden while visiting members of his foster family on the NSW north coast. So, in the timeline that they say. He is beneath ground. Did the person go missing in a high crime area? Because there was no mention of such proceedings in relation to William,Judge Brereton ruled in January that Walking Warriors disclosure of his in-care status would not be in breach of the Act. He screamed/roared once and then fell silent. William Tyrrell was three years old when he disappeared. Ive watched it a few times now and it is as if she says "dead" and then realizes it and in a split second turns it into "he's disappeared": And then I [raced back ???] Ever! -> Is this (i.e. It feels like an extra word, the sentence would be ok with simply the world just came to a halt but she gives it extra meaning with adding screaming.Its definitely possible it could have been a car accident. There was no lion game. Bleeding?? Ask yourself, "How close is this person to the one missing?" The SA with the added layer of body language does give the definite proof of deception on her statement.Adrian. I downloaded it and played it back in windows media classic as it has the ability to move a video frame by frame which is good for looking at micro expressions. It could be being deceptive due to Neglect, regarding the length of time she left William outside unsupervised; perhaps fearing she will be blamed for that. We notice that she needs us to know where D had come back from. William's foster parents who cannot be named for legal reasons became emotional as they handed a book of photographs to Deputy State Coroner Harriet Grahame before she closed the inquest at Lidcombe Coroners Court, in Sydney's west on Thursday. Moments before William Tyrrell's disappearance described by fatherhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk8Gfsc2OMITranscript of first 20 seconds of recording.I then said to (beeped out to hide identity) well where is he, where, where, wheres he gone? Melissas brain doesnt want to focus on where Karlie went after she [left]. [She was awake]This is a very good example on the use of the word just and also on how telling a direct lie can cause leaks in spoken word or body language. I thought this was all meant to convince the listener that (1) someone must have snatched William away because he wouldnt go willingly; and (2) the foster parents could not have been negligent in this scenario because William always stayed close. William Tyrrell was last seen playing at his foster grandmother's home in northern New South Wales in September 2014, when he was three years old. Adrian. We see negative language with the use of I wasn`t and I didnt and also self-censoring I just, it didn't cross my mind.There are two references to hanging given in the statement. This is not a child gone missing in the bush, this is heading down the path of abduction or something more sinister.Is he buried "down the path" in the "bush"?A female police officer actually said the above quote--they showed it on the 60 minutes interview. Daily Mail Australia understands the Mazda hatchback was allegedly driven by his foster mother on September 12, 2014 - the morning the three-year-old disappeared. Her son, William's father, has been in and out of jail, is estranged from his family and suffers from mental illness. We have been working off a transcript which has been tidied up to make it more reader friendly. Why not seek medical attention when Karlie was acting so "paranoid"? She was awake. But then backpedals into well not that. Whatever happened, Melissa is not giving a truthful account. Often, but not always this is domestic violence. I thought there was Mother,grandmother, daughter and William making four. It seems the NSW Police didn't think he was doing such a great job since an internal investigation is currently underway into DCI Jubelin.Autumn, The foster parents had planned to go to Nannas house in Kendall on Friday 12 September 2014. I am just listening to the Nancy grace interview Leigh linked to.The parents were not very helpful at all. Firstly they are offering without request that information; we question why innocent people feel the need to do so. Thanks again for your explanation. And I wish I wouldn't have fallen asleep. You have no way of knowing if there are NO well shafts in an entire state park or in that part of Australia.It makes no sense that they would be playing a roaring game with him if they are not even looking at him.Please bear in mind she is looking at the TOP of William's head in her mind. What happened to the 3-year-old boy in the Spider-Man suit is now the focus of an inquest by Deputy State Coroner Harriet Grahame. He wasn't there, leading police to issue a warrant for the arrest of his biological mother. I noticed in Williams case that the mother said she raced around and the father said started looking around. She, I made her eat a powerbar and she was just very paranoid. And I just thought, I want to just take some pictures of that.This is very interesting. If the child has been missing for months, resistance to accepting death is much less.3. That's not what she said however: its all these authorities flying and having flown over that make her (say she) want(s) to act. We expect she was awake and hanging out.So I may have to eat my words regarding SA not detecting her deception on those words to some degree (wouldnt be the first time:). She was scared. We should consider why we even have her words to analyse. Interestingly enough, Melissa entertains the thought that Somebody took her. There are times that Melissa slips into the present tense. The word think denotes uncertainty. Go into her mind and picture what she is seeing.She is looking down at him. After all, the authorities didnt find Karlie. But also it could represent that other things were done. It is just something that happened to them - not who they are. Then shaving it off? and do the best thing by him that we could possibly do.'. I missed that comment . (CROSSTALK)CASEY ANTHONY: My gut is telling me that she`s OK. CINDY ANTHONY: OK. And your gut tell you that she`s close or some -- she`s hiding? We know the power of pronouns and the fact the mother changed her usage of them shows not only sensitivity but deception in her words. Did you see that? Their testimony was followed by a statement from William's biological parents, read out by their lawyer Michelle Swift, who was joined in the witness box by the biological grandmother. If we took a hypothetical situation of a parent leaving a child in a paddling pool in their back garden while they nipped to the toilet or made a cup of tea (where the child was out of sight) and were gone for two minutes. Thank you Lucia. A years-long investigation into Tyrrells disappearance which included digging up key sites in the town he was last seen in at the end of last year continues. P: Parents know their own kids, dont they?D: He [was] cautious, hed cower away as little children would normally do, but he [was], he [had] this instinct about him about doing the right and wrong thing.How long after he went missing was this statement?When a person goes missing, there are factors to consider:1. Taking the sentence in its entirety and context I see what she is telling us is that she doesnt know how long he has been missing, but she does know how long they have been searching. If she is with her other daughter then I would like to know where the daughter she is not with is.Operator: OK, alright. Thats what I believe, what I truly believe now, and I still pray to this day that hes alive.Revised:This is not a child gone missing in the bush. I would expect that to be the number 1 reason why she called.I also find the following quote from the 000-call interesting:No, no, no, no well not that I no not that I'm aware of. The foster mothers linguistic disposition towards William is neutral at best, making it. Because I just want to be back with our family. https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/mrw-productions-llc/crime-stories-with-nancy-grace/e/56896753, OT-Karlie GuseI copied the wrong address for the Nancy Grace interview with Melissa and Zac Guse. Why this need for explanation? The placement of emotion seems contrived. (Has it been verified the husband had a meeting? on the left hand side youll see a freckle on the top of his head. And she repeats it, making that important to her. There is a good chance that if the foster parents had confessed to that, the foster organization would have taken their foster daughter away from them as well. She was just right there, just, something's wrong. There is past and present tense in the same sentence was and somethings. The foster mother purchased a camera and began compiling annual 'photo books of what we do as a family every year'. The home on Benaroon Drive is directly across the bushland road from the Kendall State Forest. God please be with her & bring her comfort.It was the evil POS foster parents that did it. In 2019, the foster mother tearfully told the podcast which arose from the 'Where's William' campaign that William's disappearance was 'the never-ending nightmare' in their lives. I'll take a look at the foster mother's use of "just" and see if I have an opinion about it.Autumn. NO MORE SILENCE.". 'Up until the beginning of the year William called me Mum. It was like she was reporting the whole thing as witness, rather than a concerned mother. That's not something a foster parent wants on their record.The foster mother mentions "my other daughter" although it has been reported that he was playing with a sister in the yard that day. William's foster mother is also regarded as a solid contributor to her north shore community. Just as an (other) example:We just dont have our boy, we justwe have no idea where he is, we dont know whos got him, we dont know whats happening to him, we know nothing about it - we just want it to be over.Could the first just mean that the foster mother is actually comparing in her mind not having their boy with a more complicated situation, e.g. The use of the word just suggests minimising language as its meaning could be interpreted as only or thats all. I thought you suggested that he was buried under a path in the bush, but you probably meant in the bush that is situated down/at the end of the path. Love and concern for Karlie? The coroner orders an urgentprobe into the final image that was taken on the day William vanished as metadata suggests the picture may have been taken 118 minutes earlier than originally thought. Karlies disappearance is not a mere story. From a recall we expect something like my wife ran over and asked if I had seen William. Why did she hate Little Tara so much? It`s like you said Autumn if they had said something along the lines of we dont know what happened we would deem that reasonable, but for them to say we know nothing about it starts alarm bells ringing. I`m being as strong as I can considering the situation. So we then would read the words as meaning all we did was drive around. This comes less than a day after police applied for an apprehended violence order (AVO) against the pair.. William Tyrrell's foster parents to face court today over assault If he was ever questioned alone about this I am sure he would crumble immediately.Adrian. I see nothing, I hear nothing, Im speechless. This mother still has not called her foster son by his name, nor has she come out and asked for help in finding him. Do they hold a clue as to what happened to William?In one of my previous comments I suggested that the foster mother may have taken a photo of William in the climbing three and that this may have led to his death (e.g. That was not the case at all. So thats, yeah, thats my last sound my last sound memory of him is wraah and then its nothing. June 27 - Strike Force Rosann announces it will move the search to an 800sqm block of bushland just 4km from where William was last seen alive.
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